Frank Schaeffer Warns Against Fundamentalist Christians Wanting to Harm President Obama
MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show – 17 November 2009.
Rachel Maddow reports on the latest racist and disturbing attacks on President Obama, including the merchandising of Psalm 109:8 on T-shirts and teddy bears. The biblical verses are threatening when taken out of context as they do and applied to the President.
MADDOW: “And then there’s this, a biblical quote making the rounds in anti-Obama circles, as reported this week in The Christian Science Monitor: Pray For President Obama – Psalm 109 Verse 8. What’s Psalm 109:8? Well, it reads ‘Let His Days Be Few, And Let Another Take His Office.’ Let his days be few. Uh, it’s followed immediately by another verse: ‘Let His Children Be Fatherless, And His Wife A Widow.’
And don’t forget, that sentiment is now being merchandized on bumper stickers, on mouse pads, on teddy bears, on aprons, framed tiles – those are nice – keepsake boxes, T-shirts. Let his days be few, ha, ha, on a teddy bear. Is anybody else creeped out by this?
Joining us now is Frank Schaeffer, whose father Francis Schaeffer helped shape the evangelical movement in the United States. Mr. Schaeffer grew up in the religious far-right. He’s the author of ‘Patience With God: Faith For People Who Don’t Like Religion Or Atheism.” Mr. Schaeffer, thanks very much for coming back on the show.”
SCHAEFFER: “Thanks for having me on.”
MADDOW: “‘Let his days be few and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.’ This is such strong language in secular terms about President Obama. Can you tell me if this means something less threatening to people hearing this in a biblical context?”
SCHAEFFER: “No, actually it means something more threatening. ”
This is some sick shit. But WEE know that fear is not going to turn us around. Folks claiming to be Christians are calling on biblical passages and invoking harm on President Obama and his family.
Let’s keep our EYES and EARS open. LOVE conquers fear.









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November 17th, 2009
Schaeffer has been on point for quite awhile. These folks need to be visited by the Secret Service.
November 17th, 2009
Yes Schaffer has been speaking out. Can you say NOI?
November 17th, 2009
Once the Secret Service shoots one of these mofos and blow their head off, the others will get the fucking message! Damn racist sobs!!!!!!
November 17th, 2009
I wanna know if it's true the Secret Service made a visit to that crazy ass Rev Manning last night? It's what Free Republic stated!
HOMELAND SECURITY LAUNCHES INVESTIGATION OF REV. MANNING
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/238874...
November 17th, 2009
I refuse to click on the fp link, but I can tell you this, HLS , investigation and reverend in the same sentence is not an attractive look.
These folks are mad, and they are crusin for a cap in the ass!
November 17th, 2009
It needs to happen. The Secret Service needs to put a cap in their ass and let it be an example for the next mofo that thinks about stepping out of line.
I am tired of the racists trash!
November 18th, 2009
Psalm 109:8? Well, it reads ‘Let His Days Be Few, And Let Another Take His Office.’ Let his days be few. Uh, it’s followed immediately by another verse: ‘Let His Children Be Fatherless, And His Wife A Widow.’
Wow___, religious fervor + racism = a death wish for whoever is invoking that scripture against President Obama…their “own” death wish.
As for President Obama, I invoke this scripture:
No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper…
Isaiah 54:17
November 18th, 2009
Preach it, brotha Webb. WEESee these mofos.
November 18th, 2009
Amen, Webb!
November 18th, 2009
What's disturbing and scary is that these people are given a daily, nationwide platform to spew this call to harm President Obama, and it's not just Fox News.
On The View, yesterday, Elisabeth Hasselbeck tried to tie-in the new breast cancer screening guidelines with Health Care Reform, saying that this is just a sneak preview of what government run health care would be like, and said that this was “gender genocide”. So, when people hear her “word salad”, they hear government run health care and gender genocide, and think Obama is trying to kill women. That helps further the right wing meme that Obama is the anti-Christ and should be harmed.
And then Palin, during an interview with Sean Hannity, said that Fort Hood killing could've been avoided if there was profiling. Now WEE all know what she means by that.
November 18th, 2009
I LOVED what Schaffer said at around the 7:45 mark of the video: Obama supporters need to stand up and support this man instead of sniping because they don't feel change is coming fast enough.
This is can't be said enough. When these crazies see Obama supporters constantly calling Obama names, threatening boycotts…etc., it sends a message to them that it's OK to attack him. As far as I'm concerned, these “progressives” are aiding and abetting these right wingers.
November 18th, 2009
I've said it from the beginning …all of the name calling coming from Obama supporters are fueling the crazies even more. Why can't they see it?
November 18th, 2009
My thoughts exactly! And Rachel knew he was talking to her and other Liberals. I made the same point a while back at JJP. I don't want to hear the accountability/trying to make Obama a better President BS! Attacking him only emboldens his enemies. Funny how that was understood by Democrats during the Clinton administration.
November 18th, 2009
Tell it! This means you FAUXGRESSIVES!!!!
November 18th, 2009
Tell it! This means you FAUXGRESSIVES!!!!
November 18th, 2009
Progressives need to wake the fuck up and shut the fuck up! All of their daily bitchin and moaning is dispiriting Democrats and driving Independents into the Republican Party. And the base of that Party is now Sarah Palin. If that bitch succeeds in making herself look “normal” to Independents and Conservative Democrats, we could all be in trouble.
November 18th, 2009
That's what I thought of too. It's funny, I had this same conversation with the President of an organization that I am affiliated with and he compared Obama to a prophet, protected by God, loved by people in foreign lands, but denounced in his own land.
He said that God is watching over him and protecting him. No matter what happens he will always come out on top.
Just writing this gave me chills. President Obama is being protected and even though evil knows no bounds it shall not hurt him.
November 18th, 2009
I think the MSM will be culpable if anything happens to our President.
They aren't reporting any real news, only FEAR and HATE….. drama for ratings and profit. They all will have blood on their hands… I swear to God, they will!
November 18th, 2009
Because they are self-serving!
November 18th, 2009
“And Rachel knew he was talking to her and other Liberals.'
Yep, and her face couldn't hide it. I hope Ed Shultz was watching too. His rant-o-meter has been off the chart.
November 18th, 2009
“President Obama is being protected and even though evil knows no bounds it shall not hurt him.”
While that may be true, that does not mean we turn a blind eye to what this hate and fear-mongering is doing to the rest of the POC.
November 18th, 2009
Of course we shouldn't turn a blind eye to it.
We have to constantly call out people and whatever entities are not only pushing their agenda against the President in a negative way but also advocating for his demise.
Once you wish death upon someone, you are crossing into dangerous and insane territory. And those people should be stopped.
November 18th, 2009
NOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 18th, 2009
Yes, this is what Schaeffer said regarding how Obama supporters need to step it up:
from the transcript:
“Obama supporters had better start speaking up in support of him and not sniping at him all of the time because he's not moving towards change as fast as we'd like in every area. This is serious stuff. The chips are down, he has real enemies–some of them are violent–and as far as I'm concerned it's time to support our president, stand with him and not only wish him the best, but pray for his safety in the face of these religious maniacs….There are not many steps left on this insane path.”
there are truly demonic spirits among us these days…..people betta recognize that there are lunatics that fully buy into this hate rhetoric. BTW….what's the status of the guy that went and shot up the Holocaust Museum, killing that security officer? That guy was a domestic terrorist, but somehow we've moved on from that story?
November 18th, 2009
Keep saying it, Miranda. I'm not well-versed in the Bible. But I do know this:
God helps those who help themselves.
November 18th, 2009
That guy was a domestic terrorist, but somehow we've moved on from that story?
He wasn't a Muslim!
November 18th, 2009
Speak, NMP1! These mofos have their own agendas/timelines for how they see/want things done.
I don't give a rats ass what labels they hide behind, liberals, progressives, democrats, independents, republicans, conservatives, HATE, FEAR-MONGERING, BIGOTRY, AND RACISM can NOT be cloaked!
November 18th, 2009
Amen!
Where is the NAACP? Jesse Jackson? Tavis Smiley? Cornell West? All of these so called “Blacker-than-Thou” leaders? Where Ya'll At Now?
November 18th, 2009
Church!
November 18th, 2009
Ok, now! NOI would never tolerate this shit.
November 18th, 2009
I've noticed how not ONE has stepped up to really call this crap out. They are silent as church mice on this subject.
November 18th, 2009
They including Travis Smiley, are all holding President Obama ACCOUNTABLE, doncha know! <snark> **SEOD**
November 18th, 2009
Remember, Shep & Kay Bailey Hutchinson's creed? His name didn't “SAY IT ALL.”
November 18th, 2009
“As for President Obama, I invoke this scripture:
No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper…”
Maybe we need to create bumper stickers that says just that. Maybe it isn't just about the MSM speaking out. . . what of regular citizens and minorities. . . . Where do we fit in all this? Who are we calling? Where are we picketing?
Again Webb – great bumper sticker and I think I will have one made and put it on my car.