WEESeeYou Jane, Jack, Jill & Arianna: All Hugged Up–Too Close for Comfort?
QUESTION: What do the following blogs have in common: Pam’s House Blend, The Black Agenda Report, and Jack and Jill Politics?
ANSWER: All of these blogs are members of the Common Sense Media Advertising Network.
Want deep penetration in the African-American progressive blogosphere? We can make that happen.
Hmmm, so if you want to penetrate (or f*ck) the African-American community, Common Sense Media can make that happen.
So, “What’s the big deal Webb? What’s wrong with being a member of an advertising network? You can’t be hating on a brotha or sista for making some ‘chedda’ in the blogosphere? Can You?”
No, there’s nothing wrong with making “chedda,” but a problem arises when there is a conflict of interest with your purported reason for existing…that is, acting in the best interest of your people…ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE…not just the ones to whom you are FINANCIALLY connected.
There’s nothing wrong with being a member of such a network as long as your motives are clear. But if you take a close look at Common Sense Media’s website, you’ll make a very interesting discovery on their homepage….
The CommonSense Media team is lead by Jane Hamsher, founder of the popular political news and commentary site Firedoglake.
Hold the f*ck up! Is that the same Jane Hamsher from FIREDOGLAKE and MSNBC who’s been attacking President Obama, calling him “weak” on Healthcare (and every other f*cking issue under the Sun) for the last nine months?
I thought she was just a blogger. Now, you’re telling me that she’s running a whole F*CKING Advertising Network??? She’s transacting business? She’s distributing $$$ from special interests groups who DID NOT WANT PRESIDENT OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Could she be offering PAYOLA to African Americans willing to HATE on President Obama (Just like the cable networks rush to hire any blacks willing to hate on the President–Call him a “Sellout Punk”)???? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHYTING ME!
Who is Jane Hamsher and why should we care?
Jane Hamsher clearly falls into an expansive category of white, liberal progressive-fauxgressive-haters of this administration. That’s no big surprise. Other WSY bloggers can more accurately elaborate on the breadth of her unrelenting hatred aimed at President Obama.
What I really want to know is, “Why is Baratunde Thurston of JJP all hugged up with this hater?”

From Twitter.
Hmmm, I could be wrong…but something doesn’t smell right here.
In many ways, WEESeeYou.com was born out of JJP. W.E.E. all share fond memories from JJP and in many respects, remain very fond of it’s commenting community. However in the midst of the Healthcare Reform saga that has now exceeded nine months, it’s hard to forget the never-ending episodes of FEAR unleashed within that blog by certain persons.
W.E.E. know that the antithesis of FEAR is HOPE. W.E.E. have never lost faith in this President.
It is no secret that many of the WSY Family endured month-after-month of countless attacks on President Obama from the blog meant to “offer a black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics.” When I personally asked where ALL of the moderators stood on Healthcare Reform, all that I heard was ***crickets.*** None of them were willing to defend President Obama; their doubts reigned supreme. The blog had lost any semblance of balance.
So now, only in retrospect, does it all come into focus…“@janehamsher hugs.”
What is the definition of collusion?
Collusion is an agreement, usually secretive, which occurs between two or more persons to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair advantage[citation needed]. All acts affected by collusion are considered void.[3]

Dave Zrinn
It is so interesting to see JJP moderators defend President Obama nowadays. Just last night, Jack/Baratunde argued in response to an article by Fauxgressive-hater Dave Zrinn of the Huffington Post…
I am so tired of alleged-progressives screaming failure at this administration.
Are you really tired Jack? You just now became tired? SOME OF US HAVE BEEN TIRED.
Furthermore, why must so many brothers like Jack continuously preface their statements (with respect to President Obama) as follows:
I agree that the White House hasn’t done everything it set out to do. I don’t like some of the things it’s done…
Obama has not delivered on MANY of the things we thought he would…
Obama is never above criticism, and he’s received a lot of mine…
If you read more of my work, you’ll know I’m not a knee-jerk defender of this administration…
For the record, I believe progressive pressure on this administration is a GOOD thing….
So, what exactly are you trying to prove? For whom, must you demonstrate your street-credibility to be a NON-defender of this President? WHERE THE FUCK DOES IT COME FROM? Please tell me that there is money involved. Please tell me that Jane Hamsher is padding your pockets. TELL US SOMETHING.
There is a concept of “Being your Brother’s Keeper,” that has been violated. The RIGHT is throwing everything it’s got (and the kitchen sink) at this President and YOU FEEL THE NEED TO PREFACE YOUR STATEMENTS LIKE THAT?
Just last night in an unusual move, Jack criticized Dave Zrinn, “I’m troubled by what I see as overly dramatic and premature defeatism by some on the left toward our own guy.”
But how can he be your own guy if you’ve been unwilling to defend him only until recently? And why is a writer at the Huffington Post being targeted in particular?
Why not target another blogger in the overflowing, fauxgressive blogosphere? Jack was right, “Anger is a great motivator.” Anger also generates more traffic, clicks and visits for JJP, the Huffington Post and Firedoglage.
LIKE JANE HAMSHER, Arianna Huffington clearly falls into an expansive category of white, liberal progressive-fauxgressive-haters of this administration. That’s no big surprise. Here are a couple examples of her hateration: here and here.
What I really want to know is, “Why is Cheryl Contee all hugged up with this hater?”

The last thing that I want to do is contribute to the success of HuffPo or Firedoglake since THEY ARE CLEARLY COMMITTED TO THE FAILURE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA. I’m not blind…my eyes can see.
All this anger and outrage ultimately puts more cash in Miss Jane and Miss Arianna’s pockets.
The only question which remains for Jack and Jill is, “Who do you serve?”
Do you serve Mistresses Hamsher and Huffington?
OR DO YOU SERVE YOUR PEOPLE?
W.E.E. SERVE OUR PEOPLE. W.E.E. SEE OUR PEOPLE. W.E.E. SEE YOU.










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November 6th, 2009
Hey, LaRapierWit. Damn, I love that name.
Hugs backatchoo, too!
Anywhooo…..
That's how WEE Rolls! LOL!
November 6th, 2009
Where is Webb tonight? We can keep this thread on the front page for days with updates. Look at what I found.
Jack & Jill Politics: A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics
Tubman/Cheryl Contee on BBC Election Night Nov 4, 2008
Author: Jill Tubman
Hey folks, I’ve been invited to speak to the BBC on election night. They’ve also got the fabulous Jane Hamsher of FireDogLake, Melissa Clouthier and other bloggers planned. It’s an honor, really. . . .
The “fabulous” Jane Hamsher who hated on Candidate Obama during the primary and general elections! Rikyah, I don't know about. Jack, I don't know about. But I do know that Jill is a first-class coon. The fabulous Jane Hamsher, and the fabulous Arianna Huffington.
There is also something about Jill that bothers me. I hate the cozy and too familar street talk in all her posts. It rubs me the same way that Michael Steele does. Stop trying to be so black, Jill. Your ass is a sell-out for the whole world to see.
November 6th, 2009
OMG!! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!
November 6th, 2009
See now, I was just telling my sistas that rikyrah's a scapegoat for JJP. They left her to her own devices while they went gallavanting across globe.
I was just telling my sistas that Jill and Jack haven't responded, and she said she doubted they would. Jill is too good to drop in on WSY. I beg to differ on the too good part. I challenged both of them last night to come correct with our people… crickets………
I am WAITING!
November 6th, 2009
Tee hee..
November 6th, 2009
I think rikyrah really believes the bullshit she writes. And I think Jill is cooning all the way to the bank.
I remember when I was in law school. There was a black, upper class woman that talked the same way Jill writes. All the slang and faux black attitude. There was a brother from Xavier in Louisana along with me who knew she wasn't about anything.
November 6th, 2009
What? Election Night Nov 4th, 2008?
I can't believe Jill used the words…The “fabulous” Jane Hamsher? How can someone be considered “fabulous” who posted a picture of Joe Lieberman in blackface? WTF? Does Jill not know this? If Jill feels Jane Hamsher is “fabulous”, I don't wanna see anything negative about Hillary/ Bill Clinton and their dog whistle!
November 6th, 2009
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/jill...
November 6th, 2009
I've no doubt she believes what she writes. I
November 6th, 2009
I am wondering if Jill has posted any articles criticizing Bill Clinton for his dog whistle during the primaries?
November 6th, 2009
Jill: “I realize I’ll be among those representing African-Americans to the rest of the world on an important night, win or lose for our guy. What do you think is most important to communicate about African-Americans and our relationship to Barack Obama’s victory or loss?”
Answer: If we vote for Barack Obama, we will support his efforts to serve America. We will give him the respect, space, and opportunity to do is fucking job.
W
November 6th, 2009
Even then, it was all about Jill. She didn't have to ask people what she should say, it should have been in her DNA to say just what you wrote. Fuck the great honor of being on the BBC with the “fabulous” Jane Hamsher.
When Rikyah took JJP into a direction of hate, nothing from Jill. Nothing from Jack. I have to rinse this bile out of my mouth before I go to bed. Good night, Wee See You family.
November 6th, 2009
Amen
November 6th, 2009
Ultimately, the onus is on JJP. Good night, Alex.
November 6th, 2009
What is the cozying up with Arianna Huffington all about?
Arianna is a snake in the grass! It all about the hits, traffic and making money. Those ugly blaring headlines about the President create traffic for her blog.
She's no liberal…she's a republican!
PlanetPOV are smart peeps! They're on to her ass.
HP tried to shut them out and silence them for pointing out her bullsh!t. Good for them to re-group and get the story out of what she's all about.
November 8th, 2009
Hey – wanted to let you know that Jack, rikyrah and I read this post and all the comments.
What I want to express is how grateful I am for your prior support since I can see some of you are JJP community members. Your participation in the fight to get Barack Obama elected and on other issues means more to me than I can say.
I hear your disappointment and anger. I respect your concerns and took time to think about how best to respond to them.
It's possible that we may choose to agree to disagree. My hope is that we can continue to respect each other as everyday warriors in the struggle and continue to work side-by-side when our interests align.
Jane and Arianna have supported Jack and Jill Politics since the site first launched in 2006. They were there for us probably even before some of you heard about JJP. In the case of Jane, she's become a friend over the years. I may not agree with all of her positions, but I respect her work and her commitment. When she and Pachacutec of FDL asked us to join Common Sense Media, it made sense to us. Why shouldn't African-American blogs benefit from advertisers too — especially when most of CSM's major advertisers are nonprofit organizations whose aims we tend to support.
The money from CSM and BlogAds helps us to pay for the site's server operations and for travel expenses to conferences. It's been a lifeline since we all have full time jobs and JJP needs resources.
We are eager to work with a black-owned ad network too and have been in negotiations with 2 such networks recently. Once we know more, we'll share that with you.
As for Arianna, again, I don't always agree with her. But I admire what she's done with HuffPo as a female entrepreneur and activist. I think she's a visionary.
I think you know we love ourselves some Barack Obama. It still makes my heart skip a beat to hear his voice on TV sometimes.
That love includes accountability though. We know that the White House is a fishbowl. We aim to help the President stay focused and deliver on his promises of change – especially where black folks are concerned. We happen to know that external pressure sometimes gives the Administration the air cover to push issues forward since it's clearer that they have public support or helps them refine their positioning.
That's how we see our role. Love IMO doesn't mean loving everything a person does but being honest with each other. That's our goal.
I understand if you see things differently and would like to see that support for the Prez expressed differently.
My hope is that we can continue to talk about how best to support the President and his agenda and ensure on JJP that we're representing the diversity of opinion in the African-American community on JJP.
Again, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support in the past and know that we want to hear from you when you are disappointed in us and have questions. That's what this blog thang is all about.
Peace, Cheryl/Jill
November 8th, 2009
Good Morning/Afternoon Cheryl/Jill
Here's my response for now… More to come!
Won't Back Down!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu50x_tom-pett...
November 8th, 2009
There is no room down there at the very very bottom of the tread to post a response. Comments obviously aren't welcome. Nice press release, though.
November 8th, 2009
check email please.
November 8th, 2009
WEESEEYOU!
November 8th, 2009
well, well, well,well, WELL!!
Is Donna Summers singing…Donna is that you I hear in the bkgrd…singing
I'm working hard for the money…
November 8th, 2009
Can you resend? No new email shows up for today.
November 8th, 2009
My hope is that we can continue to respect each other as everyday warriors in the struggle and continue to work side-by-side when our interests align.
Hello Jill,
Just thinking about your words….”Love IMO doesn't mean loving everything a person does but being honest with each other”.
Jill, love means respecting a person even if one has disagreements with them. In that JJP committed Epic Fail. Where is calling or allowing someone from your blog to call our first black President a “wuss”, “weak”, a “sell-out punk” an expression of love? Jill, that is destructive, it's fighting words meant to destroy. It's not an attack on policy, it's a personal attack on his manhood. As a woman, I am sure you know there are some things one just doesn't do—you doNOT attack a man's manhood. Those attacks can never be taken back and the damage is done. You nor anyone else at JJP came out and denounced it. We took it as JJP being in agreement with it.
You've not addressed the issues at all that we've brought up in this thread. Is your allegiance more with Arianna & Jane Hamsher than the black community? Please tell us. Your blog is directed at a black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics! I don't see it that way any more. Arianna & Jane may have helped JJP to get started but it is bloggers that kept it moving and made it what it is today. IMO, JJP haven't lived up to it promise with the black community. It seems you've lost sight of your original goal and that is serving the black community. Is not JJP to be held accountable for their actions?
Lastly, I would think JJP would be so proud of one of their own top commenters being able to get a seat sitting so close behind the President that one could reach out and touch him. JJP had to be called upon by other commenters to acknowledge it's own top commenter “Spirit”. That is major Epic Fail! A seat sitting behind the President is not given to anyone, that would have to be earned. Spirit earned that seat by her loyal enduring hard work, just as she was loyal on JJP. She came to JJP daily fighting for the cause and having nearly 12,000 posts prooves it. It takes commenters to push a blog. JJP owes Spirit an apology.
SouthernGirl2
November 8th, 2009
Jill told us and wrote threads about her being a SidleyAustin alum…she has to work at 'keepin it real' cause she is most comfortable with Beckies!! She had to assimilate and this post sounds ..just like what Beckie would say…geee, you guys all look so NEAT!!..in HS.. has now become the professional females sticking together…'fabulous Jane/Arianna'
Jill is use to being on the outs with our community. I get that. I got it from the very first time I read bourgeoise perspective under J&J banner…she is not coming from the hoood…which is good and fine.
We will watch her oscillate in the wind until she finds her own spot. She is now forced into the critiquing of the POTUS because that is what the 'clique' is doing that she earnestly endeavors to be part of…..so Jill hanging with her fellow Becky bloggers is going to consistently talk THEIR talk…so that she can walk THEIR walk.
Her soul no longer belongs to her…it is theirs for the asking….we they dog POTUS she will follow suit. Cause after all the only thing different about her is melanin…she believes…while her 'girls' pimp that melanin for their own capitalistic/entrepreneurial purposes. The funny thing is Cheryl is bought and don't even know it cause she too busy trying to FIT IN!
November 8th, 2009
AMEN!!
November 8th, 2009
done
November 8th, 2009
I remember the uproar about that. the rally happened over the weekend, and I had prepared the post for Monday morning, because it would get more traffic, and I recall that I was mocked when I explained it that way.
November 8th, 2009
When Spirit returned from that rally and gave her report, that was the time to acknowledge & congratulate her. We knew she was at that rally & were waiting anxiously for her to return and give up the scoop. The traffic was already there, Rikyrah. IMO, you let your personal feelings get in the way.
November 8th, 2009
i know that was the feeling of some of you; wasn't true, but I knew that was the feeling.
November 8th, 2009
You, my dear are a liar! Myth and Justice practically coerced you into responding.
When Spirit posted her expereince at the PBO's rally, you posted a pic of your niece Peanut, thus diverting attention away from the news of the rally. Damn, how stupid do you think we are, rikyrah?!
You could have congratulated Spirit, acknowledged her attendance at the rally and noted you'd post the details on Monday… Once again, you made it all about you!!
November 8th, 2009
Why how convenient! But WEESeeYou, Cheryl….. See new thread. The press release has it's own space for comments now.
November 8th, 2009
I read your responses to me, and posted about Spirit. I admit, I didn't understand the depth of your feelings about it. I was caught off by the blowback thinking that I was purposefully insulting Spirit.
November 8th, 2009
Rikyrah,
I want us all to be able to work through these bruised and hurt feelings. They're very real and bottled up resentment is not good for anyone. A lot of people were hurt from actions at JJP. Talking about it helps us all to clear the air so we can heal & move forward.
IIRC, after Baratunde made his appearance on MSNBC after the Ape cartoon explosion, we congratulated him, gave him huge props of a job well done, we were proud of him. We didn't wait 3 days to acknowledge him. After 3 days, the excitement is gone. No one should wait to thank or congratulate someone. You do it at that moment!
November 8th, 2009
that's a good point , and I didn't think about it in that way.
November 8th, 2009
BTW…Peanut is too cute….she really is a doll!
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